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How do you personally view Western surveillance

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and Western privacy?

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Do you see similar concerns happen in the US?

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Whatever you think of the Chinese government

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and the way that it approaches personal privacy,

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individual rights, any of this that we see when we,

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or even as Westerns when we think of China,

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they're not hiding anything.

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They don't, well, I'm sure they're hiding plenty of things,

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but when it comes to surveillance,

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when it comes to personal privacy and all that stuff,

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they've got their cards out on the table.

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Like they're not hiding the fact

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that we are monitoring everything

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that's going on with cameras.

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We're not trying to hide it from you.

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We're not gonna hide the fact that we have a back door

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and a TikTok and every other major company in this country.

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That's where the government, that's what we do.

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Like it is in plain sight

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so that everybody knows that this is what's happening.

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What I see is a difference in the US

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is I see so many similarities in what is actually happening.

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The difference is that in one country,

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it's just out in the plane, out in the open.

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Everybody knows, everybody talks about it's fine.

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They don't talk about it, but it's just there.

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Whereas in the US, like we're shocked

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when we find out that, oh, they were monitoring us.

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Oh, they did have some deal with a big tech company

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where they were getting it from,

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like this is blowing our minds.

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We were under the impression that this wasn't the case.

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And so I don't think that there is a huge difference

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in what's actually happening.

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It's just this perception and this,

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we're putting our cards on the table versus,

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we're kinda just gonna sneak around

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and not talk about it.

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I think to me that seems like the biggest difference.