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should be live. A lot fewer shenanigans, I hope, than last week.

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YouTube says the stream has started. It says it's excellent. Hello, everybody. Hello. Welcome in.

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Welcome in. Happy Friday. Happy Crunchy Day, as Adam Bean would definitely say.

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I see some familiar faces already. Let me go ahead and bring that up.

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Whenby's Note, Adam Bean, Shadow Ben. Shadow Ben, yeah, I was going to say that's a new one.

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Hi, Henry. First time in live. Welcome in. Welcome in. JMS 547, welcome.

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Terracotta Pie. The title of the stream sounds interesting. Yeah, I think it's a common issue,

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right? It's a common thing, at least I get back here, so I have to assume it impacts

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a lot of people who listen. But the concept of burnout and just always trying to stay on top of

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things and just feeling like it's maybe more work than you're able to put in. And then kind of wondering,

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hey, so is this doable? Is it possible? Should I keep going? There's an actual direct question

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that I'll address shortly. But I feel like those are the questions I see a lot back here.

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I've received emails from you guys that see the comments, so I wanted to address it,

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share my thoughts on it. It's something I've shared my thoughts on before,

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but I think it's always a really good reminder to share. If you're in the live chat, say hi. Hello.

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I'm going to give everyone a few minutes to log in. If you're in a signal group,

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definitely say hi as well. I'll be kind of cycling there, too. So say hi if you're in a

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signal group and you're tuning in live. Say hi in the live chat there. And I also want to

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thank the five people who left questions. If you guys want to already get ahead of that,

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there is a link that's the same consistent link every week in a description so that you

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can leave a question, a formal question like the one here that I answer in the next week's stream.

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So that's how we kind of keep the show going. And if it can be about me, it can be about you,

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it can be about life, it can be about tech, it can be about anything. Hello, green cactus.

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Hello, 303. Poochievert. Hello, hello. Welcome, everybody. Let me see how the stream is looking

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here. All right. I'll give it a few more minutes. Wait a few more minutes for everyone

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to come in. Do you guys have any updates or anything you're looking forward to this weekend?

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On my end, it is a boring weekend, which I'm really happy about because on the topic of burnout,

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I don't feel like I'm burning out, but I'm just exhausted this week. So I'm excited for

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kind of a down weekend to relax over here. It's been a crazy week with recording.

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I think yesterday I recorded for like five. No, it was like three to four hours of just

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talking because I had a Techlor Talks interview to record yesterday and then I recorded the

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second part of the proton hardening video, which was an hour and then surveillance support was

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over an hour. So my voice yesterday was pretty wiped. All right. Let me check the stream.

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Okay. Let's go ahead and get started. So the main question this week, okay. And then

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Steve says hi from the signal group. Hi, Steve. Definitely feel free to leave questions and

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tag along as we go. And I'll go ahead and bounce between people. So go ahead and keep

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leaving questions in the live chat. Again, I bounced between them and I'll make sure to

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catch up. So please be a part of the stream. You guys are part of the stream if you're in

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the live chat. And yeah, let's get into it. So this is from an anonymous person. They asked,

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I'm getting tired of trying to maintain my privacy. At what point do you accept that

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all services collect data on you? Your voice and image will likely be fed to AI.

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And you just have to live with that in order to live in the world. It sucks,

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but especially in some industries, you just have to use the invasive tools. There isn't

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another option and trying to fight it puts you behind your colleagues who are using

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the big data tools and not worrying about being private. Yeah. So I think there's two,

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maybe three parts of this question. The first is that I always see this feeling,

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I'm just going to call this privacy burnout, right? I think that's maybe just a term that

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we can all coin and use. I think everybody can understand quite easily. It's probably

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relatable to many people as well. I see it as a signal, not really a verdict, right?

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In the running world, I'm a runner. And if I, you know, if I've been training for months

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and months and months, and then I have a week where I'm just mentally and physically exhausted,

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it means I'm over-training. It doesn't mean that I hate running, even though it might feel

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like I hate running that week. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the running.

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It doesn't mean that it's something wrong. I'm doing too many hills. It's just that

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I'm doing too much relative to what I can handle and what I probably need in that time. And so

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actually the way to address this isn't to do more. It isn't to quit. It's to just step back

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for a second and re-reflect on the situation and see why you feel that way. Again, the burnout

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is a signal that something isn't working. It's usually just a mismatch. Technically,

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if you want to get technical, it's a mismatch between your threat model and what you're

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doing to try to address kind of the risks that you have established. So I think that's

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always where I like to start. It's always good for any of you if you feel this way to ask what

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specifically is giving me the most amount of overwhelm and is that aligned with what my

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concerns actually are? Because when you actually, you know, dig into this, it feels like every

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service collects data on you and your voice and image will be fed to AI. But really,

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that's not always true. A lot of the privacy respecting services actively try not to collect

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data about you. And I'm sure you already used many of them. So it's easy to only look at the

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negatives when you're in that kind of very negative state. So that's always what I like

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to say if you have burnout. Now, in terms of solutions, again, step back, re-reflect

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either what you're doing doesn't align with your threat model and your threat model is

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actually good. Like you've put together a good threat model, you understand what your risks are,

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you understand what you really care about. And then you might realize, oh,

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eight of these things I'm doing actually are too much. Like they actually go beyond

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what I need to do. And sometimes it's actually not that at all. Sometimes you are actually

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just, you don't have a good threat model. And sometimes you need to update the threat model.

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And it's like, okay, beforehand I had this concern and I realized maybe this isn't as much

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of my concern anymore. So I'm going to change that expectation. And then when I actually

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execute with the tools, they will better align with that. So I just think it signals something

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isn't matching up. In terms of your follow-up questions, I think that, you know, anything

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that has to do with work, I think that is less of a burnout thing and more of a compartmentalization

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thing. This is the kind of situation where it's like, hey, if something's for work,

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it's probably for a business, it's probably for school, it's probably something that doesn't

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even need to inherently be about you. And so it's very possible to actually have a situation

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where you're using tools that maybe you wouldn't use in your personal life that you feel comfortable

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using because they align with the risk and the kind of what you've designated into that

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section of your life. So if you work for a company and you're helping this company develop

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a piece of software and they're like, hey, you should use cloud code. You should use chat

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GBT to help build the tool. And then it's like, okay, I'll use these tools to build the site

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for the company. But that doesn't mean you have to upload your personal information to it.

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You don't have to upload your bank statements. You don't have to upload even your first and

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last name sometimes. So that's typically how I look at it. But you guys should also let me know

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if you're in the, in the live chat, like what's been your experience. I know it's very common.

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So I just want to make sure that no one feels like it's only them going through this. I go

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through this too. I actually just had this happen to me a few weeks ago where I just felt

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overall overwhelmed by my tech stack, not specifically the privacy and security, but

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just overall in tech, everything just felt like it just wasn't working. And so I had to kind of go

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through very particularly, like just the little things, the big things, it was, it was a whole

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thing. It took my whole weekend up. But when I came back from the weekend, it was like a whole

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weight came off my chest and it felt really nice. So that's what I have to say about that question.

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Let's see here. The title of the stream sounds interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a common thing.

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My processor is also burning out apparently very frequent system fails today. I'm sorry about

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that. I hope that it can get over it by stepping back and reassessing where it's at. I also just

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wanted to shout out on this, the privacy dad, I really liked their blog. It's very practical.

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It's coming from the perspective of someone with a family. And so I just think it's really

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well done. But they actually just published this a few days ago. It's okay to take a break from

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thinking about digital privacy. It's not like inherently about burnout. Like that's not exactly

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what it's about. But I think there's a lot of overlaps with kind of what he discusses and why

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he kind of took a little break and how it allows him to come back stronger and still

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passionate about this. You guys have to take a break. Like I can tell you I've been doing

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this for over 10 years. And if I was like on it every single day all the time,

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I wouldn't still be doing this. Like I would have quit a long time ago and I would have

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maybe just given in fully. So I really think it's important to have those boundaries for yourself.

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Steve shared a recent win on signal here, installing smart tube on the fire stick for

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ad for YouTube. That's pretty cool. I haven't heard a smart tube before, but whatever you

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can do to get ad for YouTube is going to be a big win. So good work. I mean, not a win for

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maybe creators fully, but it's a win for you guys personally. I also wanted to share our quiz.

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Actually, I think is a really good tool for this too. So our quiz is going to ask you

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questions about your situation all across the board. This browser doesn't support emojis.

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That's why you see that thing. But on our tools, it's going to ask you like, hey,

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tell me a little bit about yourself. And then it's going to ask, what do you do?

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And when you skip to results, it's going to tell you, hey, you're doing enough for who

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you are. You're doing too much for who you are. It actually tells you, you're probably doing more

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than you need to do. And I think it's not a perfect tool by any stretch of the imagination.

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That's not the point. It's not meant to be exact. It's meant to give you an idea of where

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you're at and track patterns over time. So the quiz, it actually tracks your score over time.

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And again, it's it's your own link. So we don't keep that data. It's just a link that you

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keep for yourself. If you keep taking that quiz of every couple months, it'll actually

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start to spot patterns over time on how you're doing. And this question is a big reason for

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why I developed that quiz. So all right, let's see Gothic for life. Personal data is very much

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connected with your work, though. It's very difficult to avoid that SSO integrations. Most

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companies use. Yeah, but most companies, they set up an email account for you, right? Like a

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lot of companies, let's say they use Google, they're going to give you a Google account

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tied to your company, Google account. If they're not doing that, they're not

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doing things properly, I would say. A lot of organizations again, really should be giving

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you company based credentials that aren't personal whatsoever. And ideally, a company

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is giving you dedicated devices for work as well. That's how they should be doing

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things. If they're not, then you should still try to recreate that create a new

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account just for work that isn't tied to you that you can use for work. Try to

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set up a virtual machine if they don't want to give you a dedicated device,

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like try your best to recreate that if they're not going to do it.

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Let's see. The link is quiz.techlor.tech. It's on our site. It's easy to find.

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Just go to our site. Felix's next question, and I'll jump again between the chats,

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but Felix's next question, I am living in a heavily censored country where 99%

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of major VPN providers are inaccessible. So most of your recs on those are

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useless for me. What is your stance and advice on proxy protocols that are

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primarily used to bypass censorship in countries like mine where normal VPNs

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like WireGuard and OpenVPN and proxies are blocked? I'm mostly talking about

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Shadowsocks, V2ray, Trojan, Hysteria 2, et cetera that have appeared in China

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for circumventing the Great Firewall and are now widely used in countries like

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Russia and Iran to access the rest of the internet. So I always preface this

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question. Like I want to be as realistic with where I think my advice

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is, and this is a place where I just don't have much first-hand experience.

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Like I have lived in the US most of my life, and here I've never had to deal

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with censorship issues other than the occasional Wi-Fi network that doesn't

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want VPN usage on it, which is a very easy thing to get around,

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and it's nothing anywhere near as complex as what you might be dealing

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with in your region. So again, and I think this is why when we talk

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about having public teams for projects, it's really important because when a

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project is public about who runs it, then you get to know who runs the project,

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whether it's a service, an email client, et cetera, and whoever runs it,

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their personal experiences end up in the product. So

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Techlor probably right now isn't the best resource for censorship circumvention

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because look at me, like I've lived in the US my whole life, like how much am I

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going to know about it, and how much first-hand experience am I going to have?

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That doesn't mean I can't understand, it doesn't mean that I can't learn and give

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you guys better advice, but there's probably people who actively are in your exact situation

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who have that info. So I just always want to preface that, guys, and it's a good

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reminder to like when you're using a service, just know who runs it because it reflects on

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the service and what they're going to prioritize. Based on what I've seen,

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seems like it's the best right now, but guys, this is based on what I read online and what

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people report works today. And this stuff is a cat and mouse game, what works today might not

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work next week. And so all I can share is try to find communities online that discuss these

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things that have people like yourself that are going through this exact situation.

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And don't just rely on one method because this change is so frequently, so you need to have

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more than one method ready to go so that you can access content because this is, again,

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it's a cat and mouse game. So I don't think one method is ever going to be the only method that

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will permanently work for you. And that's pretty much the best I can kind of share right now,

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unfortunately. It's just not something I know very much about.

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Anonymous asks, could you explain lockdown mode, please? I hear it helps against UFED and

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other digital forensics tools designed to extract phone data and is very useful to journalists,

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but I don't understand the pros and cons and if I should use it. I suppose if I can use the service

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on a computer, then I shouldn't use my phone for it to limit the data on my phone, or is it more

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secure to use the phone since iOS sandbox is everything. Yeah, so the first thing, it's weird

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because this video actually got quite a lot of views, but it seems like it got organic search

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views and it feels like a lot of our like dedicated audience missed it for some reason.

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So we made a whole lockdown video and I've been using lockdown mode for years now and that video

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was made a while back, but it's overall still relevant and that video discusses exactly what

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you actually notice when you start using lockdown mode on the phone, on the laptop, and it literally

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shows you like side by side how the features impact your day to day workflow. So I'd highly

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recommend checking out that video if you want to learn more about what it looks like. Now,

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for me personally, I think that lockdown mode is a lot more restrictive on mobile,

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mainly because third-party browsers you can't add site exceptions for, so you're kind of incentivized

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to use Safari. iMessage features largely break to be honest, like I'm pretty sure search just

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isn't a thing in iMessage. Photo sharing is always a little bit iffy and I just stumble on random

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things that don't seem to work on mobile because of lockdown mode. On desktop, honestly,

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I can't even tell you it's on 90% of the time. Like on desktop, because third-party

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browsers can use their own browser engines, they're not really impacted when you enable lockdown mode,

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so I just don't notice much on desktop. In terms of, you know, you say should I enable it on one

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device or another device, I would say that if you are using lockdown mode for a good reason,

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which I don't think is necessarily everyone should use lockdown, but I think it's designed for

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specific people or just people who want more security. But if you have to enable it on one device,

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you probably have to enable it on all of your devices. I mean, this is what Apple specifically

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recommends. It's supposed to be enabled on all of your devices. In fact, if you remove a device

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and you're signed into the same Apple account, if you remove a device and you turn off lockdown

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mode on one of them, you get notified on your other devices, hey, lockdown mode was disabled on one

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of your devices. And also, if you have lockdown mode enabled on like an iPhone and you buy a brand

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new Mac, while you go through the setup menu on the Mac, it'll prompt you and ask you if you want to

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enable lockdown mode. So again, it's meant to be used on all devices. If you have an Apple Watch

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and you have an iPhone, the Apple Watch will automatically inherit lockdown mode from the

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iPhone. So again, I really don't think there's many situations where you should be enabling

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lockdown mode on one, but not the other. It's meant to be used across all Apple devices.

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The one exception maybe is if you have like very compartmentalized Apple devices that are

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like tied to different accounts or you don't use any Apple services on them, then maybe

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there's a use case where like maybe a home desktop doesn't need lockdown mode, but the

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phone you take with you does. But overall, that's what I would say to that question.

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Did I miss something here? In terms of the digital forensic tools, I think, you know,

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the main thing I associate lockdown mode with is actually like mercenary spyware.

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Like that's kind of what I'm associating lockdown mode with. Not so much. And actually,

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let me check. I want to make sure. Okay, I want to make sure I wasn't like the big view here.

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And the main thing of lockdown mode that I think might impact this, the digital forensic tools,

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is the fact that it actually has forces on the feature where you can't plug things in unless

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your device is unlocked. So that might have something to do with the digital forensics

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tools. But again, I associate personally lockdown mode as being more of a spyware thing.

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Um, yeah, I guess I didn't really answer your first question. Lockdown mode, it's it's,

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I would call it reductionist. It's not adding anything. It's not like you're installing

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an antivirus. You're not installing a VPN. You're not installing something to do

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something extra for you. Lockdown mode does the opposite. It actually removes things.

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It removes features. It removes or changes the way that features work to pretty much

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prevent almost all of the avenues that someone well equipped can try to exploit

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to attack your device. And to this day, Apple still recently said that they have not found

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any sign of lockdown mode being bypassed for any kind of mercenary spyware, which is really impressive.

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So yeah, let's see. All right, let me go ahead and bump over to the live chat.

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Let's see. On topic of staying on top, I actively stopped looking at privacy stuff for

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a few months when the whole chat control and age verification started to hit.

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It was starting to stress me out too much. Yeah.

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It's a really tough line to draw because, you know, we want to make sure we're staying up

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to date on these things so that we can stay active in them.

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But at the same time, I also think that the long-term sustainability

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of keeping up with things should be sustainable.

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That was worded horribly, but I hope you guys know what I'm saying.

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I just feel like there is some kind of balance that we have to find where

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if you have to take a few months off, then when you come back, how can I

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still keep up with these things but not have to take three months off again?

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It's kind of the question I would pose. So maybe it's, hey, I just checked the news

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each weekend. Once a week, that's actually pretty good, right?

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Like it means that you're going to catch almost all the stuff.

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It means that you don't have to like keep up with it during the week

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when you're probably the most overwhelmed.

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And it means that you can even set aside an hour.

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Like it doesn't have to be a weekend, just like an hour over the weekend

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where I go ahead and actively look at this stuff.

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That's actually like the whole inspiration behind surveillance support, right?

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The reason my surveillance support started is for this job,

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I literally have to keep up with news all the time.

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And I hate keeping up with news. And so for me, it just wasn't fun.

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And so I still do it because it's my job and it's something I love doing for you guys

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and people clearly like the podcast.

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And the podcast has just been extremely successful over the years.

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But the whole point of the podcast is so that people don't have to do that.

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Like that really is, I think the main selling point of surveillance support is like,

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hey, you don't have to follow news from like 100 different sources each week.

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Just watch this 45 minute podcast and you will get everything you need to know for the week.

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So I hope that like, you know, that's what it's doing.

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Other than that, I hope you can find some kind of balance for yourself

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because I think it's important.

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Gothic Life Your Personal Day is very much connected with your work.

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I think I addressed that one earlier.

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This is a good one.

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Ophelia says, for me, the privacy burnout is not from what I'm doing myself,

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but seeing the people around me absolutely not care about privacy at all.

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Yeah, I think it's always hard because privacy is a social thing.

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And I think there's almost maybe a loneliness to it, right?

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Like if there's something that you care about that you're putting a lot of time into,

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but the people around you aren't.

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I think that is inherently, you know, kind of isolating.

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So I can definitely see that.

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And I mean, I feel it too.

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For me, I like going to events like I go to,

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and I try to do coverage for the events when I go on the channel.

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But it's also really fun to be around other people who care about these things

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where you don't have to explain yourself.

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There is no, oh, here's why I do this.

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People just ask, oh, like what are you doing for this?

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Which is a different conversation, right?

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Like what a conversation about why you do something versus what you're doing is very different.

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So yeah, I think that's the first thing.

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The second thing is if you can just try to find some way to feel optimistic

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when you're engaging with it yourself,

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whether that's for some people, it's joining a community

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of other people going through the journey.

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For some people, it's disconnecting from that, right?

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Like for some people, they don't want to be a part of it.

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And for them, it's a lot more intrinsic,

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the reason why they're doing these things.

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So I hope something there resonated with you,

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but it's a tough place to be.

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Lizzie Taj says, I've been under the impression that DNS control

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blocking is hugely important when it comes to privacy.

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Would you agree?

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Actually, I think DNS is kind of the thing that I have evolved my views on

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maybe the most the last few years or one of the most.

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I can't measure that, but I feel like it's something that...

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I didn't completely ignore DNS back in the day,

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but I didn't realize just how powerful it really was,

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especially the blocking aspect of things until maybe a couple of years ago,

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especially on mobile devices,

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because mobile devices don't let you do anything, right?

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Like if an app bundles itself with a third-party SDK

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to the invasive company, you can't really block the SDK.

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There's not much you can do.

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It's not like a browser where a browser can actually block elements

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from the website, and it can give you fingerprinting resistance,

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and it can do really fun, cool things.

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So the closest thing we can do is DNS blocking.

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And that's why I think DNS blocking is really powerful,

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is it can actually deal with apps that otherwise there's nothing

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you can really do to make them a little bit more privacy-respecting.

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So, I'm a fan.

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I need a tablet for school as an iPad, the best privacy tablet,

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especially with Graphene StopPixel tablet support soon.

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Also, what are your thoughts on Open Slate by Brax,

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their upcoming tablet?

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I don't have many thoughts on their devices.

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Yeah, I always want to tread carefully

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because I know that building products is really challenging,

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and it's not to discount that they could be good devices,

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but I do think that I'm always going to trust...

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And this goes for us as well.

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Like, you know, we're content first, and then services second.

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That doesn't mean we can't build good services,

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but I also think building a website with some tools

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is a lot easier than building a full phone

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with hardware and software.

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So, yeah, I would just say, like, if you trust the tool,

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then definitely use it.

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I personally would probably be looking more at,

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like, Calyx or Graphene, and then just getting my own phone.

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That's personally how I would go about it.

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In terms of a tablet for school, though,

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I actually don't think it matters too much, right?

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Like, we talked about this earlier.

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I think it's more about compartmentalization,

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like work, school, all of these things.

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Like, yes, it might have your name in the settings,

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but overall, you can have that device

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be used for that one use case.

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You can literally power off the device physically,

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and only power it on at school

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or when you're, like, at a cafe or at the library to study.

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And that's it.

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That's where it exists, and it's logged into

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even, like, your school's EDU email.

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You set up a new Apple account with the EDU email.

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Like, you can really set up, like, different lives

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for yourself, and you can have these devices

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follow those lives.

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And that way, there isn't really that much personal exposure.

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And it's really, I think, the easiest way

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to make privacy easy, actually.

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If you're trying to go for absolute privacy

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in all areas of your life,

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it's gonna be extremely difficult, if not impossible,

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unless you wanna just, you know, live at home all day

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and never leave the house.

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And complete recluse-style lifestyle.

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So I really think compartmentalization

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is how you can pull this off.

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Let's see.

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Any personal information is enough to make dots between.

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Yeah, I got, like, right, I'm not saying

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that's not the case, but it's about risk reduction.

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Again, you're not gonna be perfect.

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Like, if that, if your point

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is any personal information is enough

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to make dots between your personal and your work life,

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well, what are you suggesting in that situation, right?

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Like, what is your real suggestion there?

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Is it to, like, I don't know.

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Like, how is that actionable?

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So I really do think that compartmentalization,

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as much as you can, can actually get you very far.

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And it's a very nice middle ground for a lot of people.

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What crypto prepaid Visa Mastercard disposable cards

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do you recommend?

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I use CakePay personally in CakeWallet.

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It's just, I already use CakeWallet.

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CakePay's already built in, and so it's really easy to use that.

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I also know there's CoinCards, and that's another really good tool.

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I don't, I have never done a prepaid Visa through CoinCards,

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but I've definitely done them with CakePay,

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and it works really nicely.

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I'm still deciding on my future non-Gmail email account.

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Does anyone have experience of Infomaniac

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and how private their email is?

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Yeah, Infomaniac looks interesting.

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A lot of people have asked for a review of it.

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I haven't personally used it yet, so I don't have any feedback there.

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It's their way to alias credit cards for free while keeping privacy.

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I don't think credit cards, unless your credit card company does that.

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Like, I believe Capital One has a feature like that

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that I think does work on credit cards, actually.

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So there are some tools, but no, even Privacy.com,

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which I'm a big fan of, they don't support credit.

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It's just debit cards, which is a bit sad.

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Yeah, yeah, you're welcome.

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All right, let's switch back to the questions.

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It's a light week this week, so it's nice because I'm exhausted.

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Let's see.

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Hi, Henry.

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I have a question about VPNs and proxies.

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I really like this question,

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because a lot of people don't know how this works,

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so it's a chance for me to showcase a feature

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that people don't know much about.

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In the MOLVAD browser, when using their extension,

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when you enable random mode on all sites,

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it routes through a proxy.

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Is this on top of a VPN?

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I'm using a system-wide VPN with lockdown mode enabled,

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plus all sites on random in the extension on the MacBook.

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So, yeah, or MOLVAD browser, I guess.

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MOLVAD browser and B could be either,

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but it sounds like both apply to you.

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So lockdown mode is irrelevant here, so ignore that.

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That doesn't, it shouldn't change anything

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as part of your question.

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Now, what people don't know

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is that the proxy inside of MOLVAD

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only works if you are connected to MOLVAD VPN.

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So it's actually not at all like other extensions.

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So when you see the Wendscribe extension,

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the ProtonVPN extension,

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really any VPN that has an extension,

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that's just like in the Chrome store

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or in the Firefox store,

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what those do is they are essentially

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just creating a SOX5 proxy in your browser,

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and it's still overall going to give you

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the IP protection of a VPN,

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but it's keeping it within your browser.

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MOLVAD is a bit different.

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It's still a SOX5 proxy,

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but again, it requires you to be connected

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to their VPN first.

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So it's actually a multi-hop kind of.

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It's, you're connecting to MOLVAD VPN servers,

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and then from the VPN server,

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it connects to the SOX5 proxy in the extension.

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So then the site sees the proxy,

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not even the MOLVAD exit node.

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So you see it's almost a multi-hop

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with a VPN and a proxy.

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It's a very interesting workflow,

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and why it's actually really powerful

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is that because you set it to random,

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it means every site per tab

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is going to get a different IP address.

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It's different than when you connect

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to just a system-wide VPN.

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When you're connecting to a system-wide VPN

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and you access 10 websites in a regular browser,

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those 10 websites will still get

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the same IP address of your VPN connection,

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which typically is fine, right?

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Like the, there's a huge, like,

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anonymity layer to this

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because if you have 10,000 people

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connected to the same VPN connection,

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they're all going to have the same IP address.

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And so you're normally blending

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in quite nicely with other people.

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But the nice thing about the proxy

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is that you still get that anonymity

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because there's other people connecting to the proxy.

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But now you get a different IP address

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on every website.

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And in fact, you're using MOLVAD browser,

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which is already designed to make users look the same

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because it's pretty much like a lightweight Tor browser,

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right?

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You're getting a lot of privacy from that.

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So it's kind of a hidden thing I would recommend

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if you want the maximum amount of privacy

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out of the MOLVAD browser

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to enable the extension and use the proxy,

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kind of like you're doing in random mode.

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The other nice usability benefit I've found

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using the proxy

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is that the proxies are typically

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a little bit less blocked

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than the VPN itself.

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Like Reddit is a really good example of this.

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Like MOLVAD VPN IPs are to meet,

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for me, at least universally blocked by Reddit.

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But the proxies, I'd say, are 50-50.

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So when I try to access Reddit,

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I have a specific proxy I'm connected to just for Reddit

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because I know that proxy works.

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And then maybe in two months, they block that one too.

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But I just have an easier time bypassing those site blocks.

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So yeah, that's a pro tip.

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I don't know how commonly known that is,

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but it was something I definitely wanted to talk about.

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It looks like we got some troubleshooting there

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in the Signal Group.

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Okay, last question.

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Again, it was a really light week here.

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And then we can just open it up for the live chat.

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But it's YodaLuca23.

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They said that seems that Google Messages

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is finally starting to roll out the full RCS 3.1 spec

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in the stable release branch.

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That includes RCS end-to-end encryption.

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This is a hugely forward for global society.

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And I don't think they say it here,

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but a couple iOS version updates ago.

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Apple also released this so that you can enable it.

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I believe it was in beta.

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It might still be in beta,

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where you can enable RCS with end-to-end encryption

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inside of the settings on your Apple device.

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So then theoretically, you would get that

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between Android and iOS.

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Now, the real question a lot of people I communicate with

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refuse to get Signal Session, SimpleX,

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or any other privacy-focused messenger,

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and only WhatsApp or RCS.

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So what is my better choice?

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And then they kind of go through their thought process

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as to like, is WhatsApp better or worse than RCS?

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So RCS is using MLS, which is at least like an open standard.

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It's something open.

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Now, technically, WhatsApp is using Signal's protocol,

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which is also open.

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But I really think this, I don't know,

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first off, it's a wash to me.

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Like if I'm comparing them,

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I'm not like this one is just across the board,

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the better option.

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So you should definitely always use this one.

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So I'm not gonna like take a,

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I'm on the fence as well here.

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I don't think you need to decide fully, right?

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Like I don't see any harm in having an RCS client

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and a WhatsApp client,

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and then seeing over time how that develops,

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especially because the RCS thing is new.

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So I would love to see maybe a little bit more coverage

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for the full kind of metadata leakage

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if there are any like more independent audits

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that are done to try to see how secure it really is.

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We might see over time like how good it really is.

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And I think over time we'll get the answer of like,

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hey, is RCS becoming more popular?

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And is it starting to take some of the traffic away from WhatsApp?

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If that's the case, then maybe RCS makes more sense.

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So the only other thing I'd say

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is that at the end of the day, RCS is a standard.

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And you're just using a standard,

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whereas if you're using WhatsApp,

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you're using a private company

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that's gonna be associating that traffic

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with everything else you do in the Facebook ecosystem.

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So again, it's kind of a wash.

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These are just kind of the things I'd be thinking about.

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And really the biggest hole

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is probably gonna be backups,

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regardless of what you choose to use.

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So if you're using WhatsApp,

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but your contacts and yourself

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aren't using the encrypted backups feature,

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then all of your chats are gonna end up unencrypted

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as a cloud backup that they can access.

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And same thing with RCS.

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I don't know what Google Messages does,

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but if Google Messages does do any backups

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that aren't fully encrypted,

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then your messages would end up there as well.

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So I'd be looking at that,

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try to meet people where they're at

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with the best tool you can give them.

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So, yeah.

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And actually, JMR just had a really good point.

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You have to watch for old text protocol

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fallback from RCS.

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It's a really good point.

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When you're using WhatsApp,

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fairly certain there is no way to somehow fall back

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to something that's not end-to-end encrypted.

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But when you are using something that is RCS

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with end-to-end encryption,

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you're in a client that probably can fall back

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to something a lot worse.

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It's a really good point.

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So thanks for saying that.

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But that's actually it for the week, guys.

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So let me go ahead

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and we can just stay here in the live chat

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and have some fun.

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If you're in a signal group,

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definitely say that you're in the signal group.

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Otherwise, let me switch these around.

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Swap tab positions.

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Do I even need this?

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Honestly, I kind of don't.

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Why don't we just leave it like that?

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And then I have the signal room open.

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If you guys want to join a signal group,

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it is open to all our techlorians,

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even the smallest techlorian tier.

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You get access to our signal group.

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It's something that's a lot of fun.

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I get active there.

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It's our only community left at this point.

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It's the only one that we're able to maintain.

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We're a two-person team.

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So the forum was just way too much for us.

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Even with moderators, it was just a lot of work.

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So I'm really happy to still have at least one community.

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And yeah, you also get to access my RSS feed.

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Like on the topic of burnout,

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like I maintain my own RSS feed

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to track all the surveillance report stories.

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And so if you want to be able to just track one feed

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and not have to track hundreds of things,

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that's something that's also part of the techlorians.

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And you can join that down in the description.

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It's a big help for us.

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Let's see.

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What was the name of the other card provider,

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the one you said after CakePay?

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It's called CoinCards.

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Again, I didn't have as good of an experience with it

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as I do with CakePay,

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but I still like CoinCards.

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It's still a really good service.

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Can anyone remember the name of the iOS app he showed us

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that shows all the secrets your iPhone leaks?

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Yeah, it's called Loop.

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L-O-U-P-E, I believe.

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I believe it's called Loop.

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Yeah, it's a good point.

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Hi.

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Hello, Amethyst...

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Uh, Emi.

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Amethystangel216.

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Hello, hello.

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I do not have any info on CHOMP SMS.

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I have never heard of a CHOMP.

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Thanks again, Henry.

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Yeah, of course, of course.

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Yeah.

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So guys, this is the open time.

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Maybe we'll go to just an hour this week.

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We don't need to push this further than it needs to go.

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So say hi if you have a question for me,

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if you have a question about privacy,

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security, digital rights, the world, whatever.

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I'm here.

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It's meant to be the office hours,

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so we can just kind of chill and have a good time here.

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If you're in a signal group,

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same thing goes to you guys.

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Steve, Henry's still here.

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One of the rare times I've been free for this slot.

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Yay, yeah.

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I feel like I haven't seen you on the live chat often,

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if ever.

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I don't want to say ever,

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because maybe there was a time where you were on

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and I'm forgetting.

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But it's good to have you on.

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Let's see.

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Grant Sherman, have you heard of File-In,

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the cloud storage provider?

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You should do a privacy cloud storage tier list.

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Actually, we did do some coverage for File-In.

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Way back.

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I think this was four or five years ago.

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We did a video on top five Google Drive alternatives

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or just end-end encrypted cloud providers.

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And File-In was on there.

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I forgot if File-In's on our website,

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actually, on our tools page.

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Let's find out here.

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Tools.

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Yeah, File-In's on there.

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We just can't do coverage for everything.

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We don't have a Firefox-focused video.

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We don't have a Duck-to-Go browser video.

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We don't have a Waterfox video.

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Like, there's just so many tools that we don't have videos on.

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So I do think that the nice thing about having the site tools

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is that we can still kind of keep up with things

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a bit better on a website.

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Because content is really hard.

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It's hard to put together a content version of sites.

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It just takes a lot more time.

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How's the compatibility with using crypto wallets

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for regular commercial use?

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Are these usable in place of credit cards?

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Yeah, I don't think so.

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Some businesses, you can look at maps online

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of businesses that support cryptocurrency.

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I think that's what you're asking.

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But ultimately, I think for a regular person,

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if you're trying to use cryptocurrency day-to-day,

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you're probably going to have to use one of these bridges,

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like using a prepaid Visa gift card.

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I've done the experiment before.

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It's actually really fun where it's like,

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okay, can I spend a week and only use cryptocurrency?

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And specifically, CakePay, back in the day,

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I did a showcase partnered video with CakePay.

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This was a long time ago, back when they first released the feature.

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And it was like, I did a road trip just using CakePay.

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So I bought the hotel with it.

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I got our food with it.

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And it was a really fun video to record.

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We drove into the Humboldt Mountains

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and the Redwoods and the Giants.

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So it was really cool.

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So I think that is really the main way to do it.

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Most people don't support cryptocurrency.

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And so if you want to actually use it more often,

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you need to probably find people who natively support it

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and use that when you can.

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But otherwise, you have to use something like a gift card

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that you purchase.

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And it's kind of like a workaround.

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Do you have a referral link for CakePay?

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No, I don't think there's referral links.

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So yeah, just use it.

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Create an app that uses Google Drive for storage,

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but it encrypts the file before uploading it.

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Nice. How does it compare to like CryptoMator?

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Like what's the difference between CryptoMator?

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Anyone here have info on CHOP?

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What is CHOP SMS?

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I have to know now.

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I'm going to pull it in my other browser.

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I don't trust you guys always.

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I know.

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There's like pranks and stuff that you guys could play.

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CHOP SMS.

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Okay, no, it's a real thing.

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It's a real thing.

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I'm seeing it on the Google Play Store.

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It looks like an SMS client.

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It looks like just an SMS client.

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I don't see what about it would be better or worse

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for your privacy unless they're uploading any of that data elsewhere.

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But I'm on their site.

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I would guess it's like more of a generic SMS client from what I can tell.

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How can I still use YouTube while keeping the recommended feed?

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The issue with the YouTube offshoots

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are that you lose the convenience of a curated feed.

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Personally, I think that's like the whole benefit

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to using something without a feed.

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Like I think that's a good thing.

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But if you really want that feed,

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I mean, I don't know how else you're going to recreate that.

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You're going to have to use YouTube probably to do that.

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In that case, then like use YouTube in a dedicated browser

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that's only used for YouTube, maybe use an ad blocker

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because you can still have an ad blocker

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and still get the recommendations.

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That's probably the direction I would go

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if those are the specific things that you want.

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Speaking of Firefox focus,

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I used to have it as my main browser.

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So links from other apps open in it

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instead of normal Firefox issue is it doesn't have extensions.

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Do you think focus is worth it?

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I think focus is nice for just a disposable browser.

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So if you want your default browser to just open things

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and then they don't permanently stay,

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I think focus is really nice for that use case.

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DuckDuckGo is going to offer something quite similar there too.

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So it's kind of your call,

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what you want your default browser to do.

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I've been in both phases myself.

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Like I've been in a phase where it's like,

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I actually want my default browser

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to be the browser I'm using to log into accounts, etc.

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And I've also been in a situation where it's like,

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I want my default browser to just wipe everything

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when I'm done on mobile specifically, right?

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On desktop, I'm always like,

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my default browser is always like my account browser,

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but on mobile, I've kind of gone back and forth there.

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So try them out.

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I mean, they're, see what you like better too.

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There's no, like none of these are bad options.

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Yeah, good luck over there.

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I hope that it's not too bad troubleshooting what's going on.

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I remember when I got my,

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like my first PC build was the Skylake build

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with like the 6700K, I believe.

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And pretty much like, it was a good computer.

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It just worked really nicely.

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And then I kind of like started getting into this mode.

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It's an issue that I think a lot of people go through

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where it's like, oh, I want to be more professional

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and I want to be more like a business,

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even though we're like a two person team,

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just kind of like figuring this stuff out as we go, right?

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But I went through this phase and so I was like,

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okay, I'm going to build like a really nice PC

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using more like business-esque style hardware.

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So I got the Skylake X processor, big mistake.

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That thing was a pain in the ass.

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I, you know, because it's like

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a little bit more of a niche processor,

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I had to get a much more expensive motherboard.

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And then the thing ran so flipping hot.

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Like I got the nicest Noctua Air fan

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and that thing ran idling at like 50, 60 Celsius sometimes.

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And when I actually hit it hard with a video edit,

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it would crack 100 Celsius.

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So I actually had to set up my first liquid cooled PC

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just for that thing.

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So literally, like this is why, I don't know, like in life,

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I've learned to try to always take the simplest path

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where I can because like the amount of downstream impacts

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from one choice is like crazy.

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It blows my mind.

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Like me choosing to go with that processor,

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it changed the CPU cooler I had to buy.

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It changed the motherboard I had to buy.

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It changed literally the GPU I had to buy.

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Like everything downstream had to change

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as a result of the CPU I picked.

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So never underestimate like a decision you're making

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that might seem a little complicated on day one

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and like what it really means long-term.

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And we see this everywhere.

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Like the operating system you choose to use

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literally impacts everything downstream.

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This is like one of the main selling points, I think,

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actually for the Apple ecosystem.

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It's like, and again, this is all personal preference,

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but when you choose to use the Apple ecosystem,

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you get 80% of everything over the cloud

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with end-to-end encryption.

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It's not the best end-to-end encryption.

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There's still metadata collection from Apple.

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I get that, right?

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But it takes care of everything for you.

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If you go with something like Graphene,

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still a great project, you can still recreate

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that experience, but it's gonna take a lot more work.

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So again, there's no right answer.

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You're gonna get a lot of benefits

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by doing that latter thing as well in other areas.

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But it's those kind of decisions

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that people don't put as much emphasis on.

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People are a lot more likely to go,

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how does iOS and their sandboxing

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compare to Android and their sandboxing?

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But realistically, the real secret

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is that that's probably not going

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to make or break anything for you.

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What's gonna make or break either option for you

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is downstream what it enables you to do

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on top of the operating system.

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From that perspective, it really comes down to the individual.

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I just caught myself rambling about,

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I don't even know what.

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Like, why did I start rambling?

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Oh, you're reseeding your CPU.

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I'm wishing you very much luck

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in that your system is not a Skylake X system.

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Mayonnaise, I'm thinking about making

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the full switch over to Proton today.

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I haven't watched your video yet,

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but do you have any suggestions

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of an order to work in when starting?

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You don't have to,

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so you say full switch over to Proton today.

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The first thing I would say

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is that these things can be a transition.

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I know, like, I'm this way too.

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I want, when I'm done with something,

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I want to just delete it and have it out of my life

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and it's out of my bandwidth

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and it's not taking up that mental space.

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And I just want to be done, right?

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But I think big transitions, right?

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Like Proton's a suite,

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which means you might be coming from another suite

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and suites aren't just one tool.

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It's email.

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It's drive storage.

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It's photos.

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It's calendars.

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There are so many things

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that could go wrong in the transition.

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So I don't know where you're at.

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You didn't tell me where you're at

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or what full switch means to you.

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But Proton just released a new feature

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even where you can link a Google account

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into Proton.

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So you can literally use Proton

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as your centralized email client.

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And you can have a Proton email there

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as well as a Gmail email there.

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And that's not going to cost you

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any more privacy, right?

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If you trust Proton,

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they're not going to do anything nefarious

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with your emails there.

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If anything, there might be some privacy benefits

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because you're not using the Gmail client,

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which might have some of its own tracking

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built into it.

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So do your best to do the transition

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and slowly phase things out.

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You know, move one service over,

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then start using that service.

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You might find a week later

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that this one thing didn't transfer properly.

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And then when you actually have full confidence,

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then delete the data from the old service

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and then you're done with that service.

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And then over time,

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you can finally click that delete button.

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Again, I don't know where you're at.

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So I'm just making a lot of assumptions here.

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But it's something that I know I fall into

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in terms of traps.

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Let's see.

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Steve, tip, have a separate profile

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on your phone for finance apps.

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Don't use it outdoors.

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If your phone is snatched from your hand

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because of your carelessness,

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at least the thief cannot see or access

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your finance apps.

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Yeah, it's true.

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Yeah, it's a very good tip.

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So thanks for sharing, Steve.

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Let's see.

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Cloud storage provider.

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Again, infomaniac suite claims to be 150 Euro for 50 gigabytes

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along with the rest of the suite.

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Like I said above, seems too good to be true.

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Yeah, it might be.

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Again, I don't have experience with it.

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Question for Henry.

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Going cognitive course is five years old.

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If you have the time,

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is there anything you would update?

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Yeah, well, it's already recorded, the update.

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It was like a nine hour,

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it's like nine hours total of footage.

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And we're in the middle of cutting it up.

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We already have beta testers

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and we have a completed lesson for the most part

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as kind of like our template lesson.

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So if you're one of those beta testers,

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you know who you are.

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And the site is done.

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We're going to do the transition

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from the old teachable users to the new site

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for the first version.

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So that way they're on the new site.

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So we're literally in the middle

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of just editing the new one.

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And there are a lot of updates.

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Like there's a lot of things that have changed

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in five years.

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I'd say the fundamentals are still there, right?

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But especially the tool recommendations

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have changed a lot.

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Like there wasn't even aliasing five years ago, right?

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Like simple login.

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I mean, all those tools weren't a thing.

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It's kind of crazy to think about that.

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So yeah, it's going to be really good guys.

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Like I'm really hyped for it.

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And it's going to be a lot more thorough

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than the first one too,

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while still being accessible and easy to take.

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And there's still going to be the free version.

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But we're probably going to open up pre-orders

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for it pretty soon here

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because we're already kind of coming up

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on maybe finishing our first section.

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So yeah, it's an exciting time.

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That's what we've been putting a lot of our time

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into the last few weeks.

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So it's pretty good.

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Let's see.

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Hello.

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Thanks for all the content.

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Of course.

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Thanks for tuning in.

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Massive Holes Plat, 8539.

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Have you ever used EOS?

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I have.

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I actually have a review of EOS.

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It's very outdated, right?

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It's changed a lot.

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And I think I'd be maybe

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a little bit less critical of it now in 2026.

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I'm still not a fan of it.

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Not like I'd say don't use it.

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It's just for me, when I'm using Android,

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I don't want it to be like EOS.

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And I just don't really like the EOS-esque-ness of EOS.

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So yeah, that's just my feelings towards it.

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Again, very personal preference.

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I know a lot of you guys use EOS

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and you guys really like it.

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So it seems like a great project.

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It's just as well.

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You didn't have self-oxidizing raptor.

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Funny.

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Fortunately, I can watch the stream on a tablet,

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not missing it for the CPU BS.

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Thanks for the luck.

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Of course.

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Of course.

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Why don't you recommend YouTube Revansit?

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It is the most convenient YouTube alternative.

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It blocks ads, OLED dark mode sponsor block,

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and it just feels like the original YouTube

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without the bloat.

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Use it.

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I don't like not recommend YouTube Revansit.

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I know a lot of you guys use it.

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So yeah, please do.

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I will say sponsor block does piss me off a little bit.

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Like I get why people use it,

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but I do feel like it pushes the boundaries, man.

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Because I'm already pro ad blocking.

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Right?

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I think there is no way that I can,

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in good faith, run a channel that talks

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about the topics we discuss and say,

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yeah, but guys, you should keep your ads on.

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The whole industry that's behind

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over half of the real privacy invasion happening

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and also security issues that are behind it.

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So I can't, in good faith, say you don't use an ad blocker,

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even though like 75% of our views are non monetized,

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which means that a huge majority of our audience

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is using an ad blocker and we're not getting money for it.

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But sponsor block really pisses me off actually,

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especially because we time stamp things like,

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you know, we time stamp like every sponsor segment.

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So it's really easy to skip.

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And I feel like at that point it's like, hey,

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like you just don't value the creator.

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It's how it feels to me.

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I'm not saying that's necessarily how you feel about it.

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But as a creator, it feels like, okay,

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if you're blocking my ads,

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if you're blocking the sponsor segment,

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then it just, it feels like it just sucks, man.

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Because like it takes a lot of time.

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These videos can take like 10, 20, 30 hours

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to put together.

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And obviously it's not free.

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And the only way we can do this for a living

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and not dedicate ourselves to other things

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is because of revenue models.

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So yeah, all I'll say, if you do use these tools,

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try to support the creators however they're doing it.

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So if you are using sponsor block on like all things secured

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or the hated one or whoever,

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find a way to support them individually separate from that.

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So that way you can still get the best of all worlds.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, don't disrespect again to the project.

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I know that the person who runs the project

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knows of our content because they tweeted at us once

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because I forgot to time stamp a sponsor segment once.

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Like literally it was like on a surveillance report.

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I think I forgot to time stamp a segment.

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And then the sponsor block Twitter account

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added the Techlor Twitter account and said,

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why did you not timestamp this?

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It's like, oh my God, I literally just forgot.

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So I think they might be familiar with our stuff.

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Yeah.

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Let's see.

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Why reasoning?

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Why receding a CPU?

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Yeah.

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Good call to keep paying for a domain.

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Yeah.

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It's a good point.

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Another place, just a tip when you're transitioning,

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I think they're referring to the transition

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to like a new email provider.

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When you change phone numbers,

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I do always like say, if you're not 100% ready,

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you can port your phone number to something like Google Voice.

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I know it's Google.

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You can port it to something else.

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But that way the number still exists somewhere

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and you still have it parked somewhere

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if you really need access to it

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and it'll still receive messages.

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So don't forget, you can like port things to other places

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to kind of just buy yourself some time

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to make sure that the transition was actually successful

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when you're moving between providers.

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If you need any more beta testers,

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I'd love to sign up.

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Yes, send me an email.

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If you guys want to be a beta tester for going Cognito,

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I'm trying to keep it very low key.

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You know, I'm giving free access to the course,

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which is like the least I could do

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for you guys taking a look at it.

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But like the first three people who email us meet,

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email me, Henry, Henry at techlar.tech.

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First three people,

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I'll get you added to that signal group,

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but that's it.

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I won't do more than three.

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I already only let, I think,

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like five or six people in from our techlorians.

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So I gave kind of like a techlorian beta access to those.

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Thanks for the answer.

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I appreciate it, of course, of course.

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Did you mention in the video

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that what Google's up to doing with app installations,

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Google's not allowing any apps to be installed

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without being signed by them

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or a hard way for a usual user to get around?

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Yeah, we've been doing a lot of coverage for that.

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Like we have been really promoting the hell

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out of keep Android open.

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And we even signed the open letter.

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Like we're listed on their site

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as like some of their sources.

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So I'm keeping track of it.

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In fact, the people who run keep Android open

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like literally send me emails when they get updates.

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So I'm very much kept in the loop

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on what's happening there.

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And if there's something that I miss

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and you're like, Henry,

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why didn't you talk about this?

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Then maybe I missed it.

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So let me know and then I can try to cover it.

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Multiple YouTube creators I follow here

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have been experiencing horrible decreases

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in user revenue.

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Is that affecting you?

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Yeah.

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I mean, revenue definitely has gone down

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on the YouTube end of things.

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Like our ad revenue has been a lot lower

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the last few months, I would say.

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And like the first few months of this year

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we saw a huge spike.

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So it feels especially aggressive

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because we went like,

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we had kind of our average

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and then our ad revenue went like this.

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And now it like came down

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like really hard the last few months.

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So again, that's why we have other revenue models.

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That's why we have techlorians.

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That's why we have affiliate links

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that are always opt-in.

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That's why we have sponsors.

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Like that's how we can still keep doing this.

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And I don't feel like I can say no to a sponsor.

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I can say no to like paywalling content,

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which I know is a common thing.

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So like it's cool.

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I like the diversification that we've accomplished.

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But yeah, it is always hard

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when the YouTube ad revenue drops

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because when it does well,

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it's actually a huge help for us

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when it doesn't do well.

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Then it's like, man, that would be,

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I think it's like the easiest thing

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to like influence if you get like a really

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good video out.

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But if you're just dependent on ad revenue,

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then you're only incentivized

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to make like crazy viral videos

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that like are going to get the most attention.

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I think that's like why it's hard to,

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it's hard to only have one revenue source

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because then you're incentivized

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by that revenue source.

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That's always what I try to come back to

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back here.

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And it's how I try to run the channel

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in a way that I think is fair

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to what I want it to look like.

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Does YouTube premium light actually result

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in creators getting a good cut?

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I've heard that it does,

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but I'm not YouTube.

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And I don't know much about YouTube

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premium light.

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That's a new thing.

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So I don't know.

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Oh, I see.

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I could go voice is not available

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in Germany.

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That's a bummer.

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Yeah, I feel like in the US too,

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most people take the number with them.

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That's a very normal thing to do.

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Like normally you port to the new provider.

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But because we have VoIP services

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that are a lot more common here,

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I think it's a little more common

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to use something like Google Voice as well.

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If I were to email you about beta testing,

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going cognitive, I mean, I was ready to

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choose a new email provider.

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That's funny.

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Yeah.

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Hey, you could set up.

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And this is another pro tip.

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If you don't have a custom domain or

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something set up simple login,

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use simple login,

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and then you can change behind the

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scenes, the email that it gets

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forwarded to.

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That's like another huge benefit

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when you're using simple login,

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when you're using ad EIO.

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Let's say you generate 10 emails on

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10 different accounts.

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It doesn't matter if you change

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your email provider behind the

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scenes, the 10 emails on those

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accounts always stay the same.

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If you get a new email provider,

58:02.440 --> 58:04.340
you just point simple login or

58:04.340 --> 58:05.720
ad EIO at the new email provider.

58:06.040 --> 58:07.760
So if you're not using aliasing

58:07.760 --> 58:08.860
services, just reach out with an

58:08.860 --> 58:09.480
alias to me.

58:09.640 --> 58:10.980
And then it doesn't matter if you

58:10.980 --> 58:12.280
do a transition in a week.

58:12.620 --> 58:13.280
Like I won't know.

58:13.400 --> 58:14.280
I'm still going to email the same

58:14.280 --> 58:14.540
email.

58:14.700 --> 58:15.320
It's just going to go to a

58:15.320 --> 58:15.900
different inbox.

58:19.220 --> 58:20.460
What's your favorite secondary

58:20.460 --> 58:21.640
phone number provider to sign

58:21.640 --> 58:22.160
up for sites?

58:22.280 --> 58:23.480
VoIP are sometimes blocked.

58:23.680 --> 58:24.400
Lately it's Cape.

58:24.800 --> 58:26.180
I migrated to Cape Cellular

58:26.180 --> 58:27.220
like a few weeks ago.

58:27.220 --> 58:28.840
And they have a secondary numbers

58:28.840 --> 58:29.200
feature.

58:29.780 --> 58:31.060
And I think

58:32.080 --> 58:34.260
someone I know tried signing up

58:34.260 --> 58:36.000
for a Facebook account with the

58:36.000 --> 58:37.160
secondary numbers feature and

58:37.160 --> 58:38.260
that wasn't approved.

58:38.540 --> 58:40.500
But I have been able to access

58:40.500 --> 58:42.500
like so many services that were

58:42.500 --> 58:43.660
blocked with my other VoIP

58:43.660 --> 58:45.300
provider with Cape's secondary

58:45.300 --> 58:45.740
numbers.

58:46.380 --> 58:47.960
And I did the full switch.

58:48.120 --> 58:49.740
So now I'm using only Cape.

58:49.920 --> 58:51.620
So I have like my regular Cape

58:51.620 --> 58:52.840
SIM number and I have the two

58:52.840 --> 58:53.600
secondary numbers.

58:53.960 --> 58:55.100
The first secondary number I'm

58:55.100 --> 58:56.980
using for accounts and like

58:57.500 --> 58:58.600
OTPs and stuff like that.

58:58.780 --> 59:00.140
And then the second Cape number

59:00.140 --> 59:01.380
I'm using is just my spam.

59:01.660 --> 59:02.520
Like I can give this out to

59:02.520 --> 59:04.480
anybody number and that way it's

59:04.480 --> 59:05.680
like part of the same cell plan

59:05.680 --> 59:06.840
and it's all I'm paying for.

59:07.060 --> 59:08.580
So I think I'm going to make a

59:08.580 --> 59:09.960
full Cape review soon because I've

59:09.960 --> 59:11.480
been pretty impressed with the

59:11.480 --> 59:12.520
user experience and it's

59:12.520 --> 59:13.620
really enabled a lot of cool

59:13.620 --> 59:16.040
workflows that are pretty

59:16.040 --> 59:16.300
nice.

59:18.700 --> 59:20.300
I do have an idea about a

59:20.300 --> 59:21.340
peer recommendation model using

59:21.340 --> 59:22.180
social recommendations.

59:22.480 --> 59:23.300
Still trying to figure that out.

59:23.420 --> 59:24.400
It's an interesting concept.

59:24.640 --> 59:24.720
Yeah.

59:24.720 --> 59:26.940
PeerTube I think kind of does this

59:26.940 --> 59:27.640
if I'm not mistaken.

59:28.100 --> 59:28.700
Like you should look at how

59:28.700 --> 59:29.880
PeerTube does recommendations

59:29.880 --> 59:31.840
because we're on PeerTube.

59:32.120 --> 59:33.780
You guys I should have

59:33.780 --> 59:34.280
mentioned that.

59:34.440 --> 59:35.920
Everyone who's like watching

59:35.920 --> 59:37.140
your content using YouTube

59:37.140 --> 59:38.500
revancid and whatnot.

59:39.180 --> 59:40.860
Don't do that for us.

59:41.820 --> 59:43.220
Not because there's

59:43.220 --> 59:44.180
nothing wrong with it,

59:44.220 --> 59:45.560
but because we literally host

59:45.560 --> 59:47.300
a PeerTube server which is

59:47.300 --> 59:49.660
just ad free out of the box.

59:49.740 --> 59:50.560
And it's a lot more privacy

59:50.560 --> 59:53.360
respecting than going

59:53.360 --> 59:54.640
through Google in any capacity.

59:55.300 --> 59:56.980
So check us out on PeerTube

59:56.980 --> 59:57.980
techlor.tv.

59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.000
That's always the better way

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:00.280
to go.

01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:01.740
If you can push some of your

01:00:01.740 --> 01:00:03.200
creators simply onto better

01:00:03.200 --> 01:00:04.240
platforms then you don't have

01:00:04.240 --> 01:00:05.480
to use tools like YouTube

01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:06.520
revanced or

01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:08.600
Grey J and stuff like that.

01:00:09.420 --> 01:00:10.240
So again nothing wrong with

01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:11.940
the tools but I think the

01:00:11.940 --> 01:00:13.020
best case scenario is to just

01:00:13.020 --> 01:00:14.200
get people in better platforms.

01:00:15.460 --> 01:00:16.180
So yeah.

01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:20.940
Brilliant tip.

01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:21.440
Simple login.

01:00:21.580 --> 01:00:22.200
I'll do that this evening.

01:00:22.200 --> 01:00:23.500
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a nice

01:00:23.500 --> 01:00:24.700
like side effect of using

01:00:24.700 --> 01:00:25.560
aliasing services.

01:00:27.900 --> 01:00:28.660
All right guys.

01:00:29.020 --> 01:00:31.620
I'm gonna give this a five

01:00:31.620 --> 01:00:33.540
minutes cutoff.

01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:34.420
Five more minutes.

01:00:34.780 --> 01:00:35.820
I just hit an hour.

01:00:36.220 --> 01:00:37.840
So let's do five more minutes.

01:00:38.220 --> 01:00:39.080
So why don't you guys

01:00:39.080 --> 01:00:40.100
leave your final questions.

01:00:40.420 --> 01:00:41.560
Any wins that you had in the

01:00:41.560 --> 01:00:42.640
last week you want to share

01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:44.260
or anything else.

01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.680
Signal group, same thing.

01:00:46.420 --> 01:00:48.140
Go for your last calls.

01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:49.740
Five minutes, last calls.

01:00:51.120 --> 01:00:52.680
And while you guys kind of get

01:00:52.680 --> 01:00:55.000
those in if you can support

01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:55.840
us definitely do.

01:00:56.020 --> 01:00:57.280
Otherwise just you being here

01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:58.920
is amazing and having people

01:00:58.920 --> 01:00:59.860
to do this live stream with

01:00:59.860 --> 01:01:00.500
is a lot of fun.

01:01:00.600 --> 01:01:01.700
And it's again just meant to

01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:03.240
be a place where I can just

01:01:03.240 --> 01:01:05.240
be more candid just be myself

01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:07.480
and just kind of share more

01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:09.620
like thoughts as I go along

01:01:09.620 --> 01:01:10.100
with you all.

01:01:12.040 --> 01:01:13.380
And this is normally done

01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:14.820
Fridays at 10 a.m.

01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:16.200
I think next week I might

01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:16.840
have to move it a little

01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:17.220
earlier.

01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:17.760
I think there's something

01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:19.480
on my calendar next week

01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:20.940
but I normally schedule them

01:01:20.940 --> 01:01:21.700
a day or two in advance.

01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:22.580
So you guys will get notified

01:01:22.580 --> 01:01:23.140
about that.

01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:25.080
And if you become a TechLorean

01:01:25.080 --> 01:01:26.260
in the description you can

01:01:26.260 --> 01:01:27.520
join our private signal group.

01:01:27.640 --> 01:01:28.180
We'll get you in there

01:01:28.180 --> 01:01:28.720
pretty quickly.

01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:30.000
You can also do it via Monero.

01:01:30.260 --> 01:01:31.300
You can literally become

01:01:31.300 --> 01:01:32.400
a TechLorean with Monero

01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:33.460
and we'll comp you for the

01:01:33.460 --> 01:01:33.680
year.

01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:34.920
And then you can just

01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:36.060
renew manually each year.

01:01:36.160 --> 01:01:36.920
Kind of like I think what

01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:37.880
Mulvad does with their

01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:38.840
subscription.

01:01:40.080 --> 01:01:42.240
And then let's see.

01:01:42.940 --> 01:01:43.460
Beyond that.

01:01:45.380 --> 01:01:46.420
Is there anything else I want

01:01:47.020 --> 01:01:47.780
to promote?

01:01:48.780 --> 01:01:49.220
No.

01:01:50.380 --> 01:01:51.480
It's nice to have you all in here.

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:52.660
Let's see.

01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:55.040
What kinds of use cases

01:01:55.040 --> 01:01:55.900
should someone choose

01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:57.320
cubes versus tails versus

01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:57.680
who next?

01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:58.540
I understand how they're

01:01:58.540 --> 01:01:59.340
different but not super

01:01:59.340 --> 01:02:00.160
clear on when one is

01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:01.180
preferable to another.

01:02:02.140 --> 01:02:02.440
Yeah.

01:02:02.540 --> 01:02:03.020
It's a good question.

01:02:03.580 --> 01:02:05.240
So cubes for me is

01:02:05.240 --> 01:02:06.320
supposed to be.

01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:07.020
It doesn't have to be

01:02:07.020 --> 01:02:08.860
but it's to me aimed

01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:09.740
at being more of like

01:02:09.740 --> 01:02:11.080
a daily driver operating

01:02:11.080 --> 01:02:11.540
system.

01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:13.620
Cubes when you use it

01:02:13.620 --> 01:02:15.160
just makes compartmentalization

01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:17.160
stupid easy kind of

01:02:17.160 --> 01:02:17.940
because I think cubes

01:02:17.940 --> 01:02:18.760
is actually horrible

01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:19.940
from usability perspective.

01:02:20.120 --> 01:02:21.440
I can't stand using cubes

01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:23.840
but it makes compartmentalization

01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.360
itself as a concept

01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:26.240
easy to do.

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:27.360
It lets you have

01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:29.200
as many Firefox browsers

01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:29.780
as you want

01:02:29.780 --> 01:02:30.840
and each of them can tunnel

01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.020
through a different VPN

01:02:32.020 --> 01:02:32.540
connection.

01:02:32.860 --> 01:02:33.640
Some of the things you can

01:02:33.640 --> 01:02:34.700
have go through who next

01:02:34.700 --> 01:02:36.080
like cubes is just

01:02:36.080 --> 01:02:37.060
extremely powerful

01:02:37.060 --> 01:02:38.900
and it's a wonderful tool

01:02:38.900 --> 01:02:40.000
at what it does.

01:02:40.620 --> 01:02:41.720
And again though

01:02:41.720 --> 01:02:42.420
it's meant to be

01:02:42.420 --> 01:02:43.340
a permanent home.

01:02:43.360 --> 01:02:44.400
It's where you do

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:44.900
your stuff.

01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.100
It's where you save your data.

01:02:46.730 --> 01:02:47.980
So it's more of a traditional

01:02:48.740 --> 01:02:49.280
Linux.

01:02:49.740 --> 01:02:50.920
It's not technically it's

01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:51.720
like what a zen

01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:54.460
situation

01:02:56.180 --> 01:02:57.260
but yeah

01:02:57.260 --> 01:02:58.620
that's how I would define it.

01:02:58.740 --> 01:02:59.940
Tails is pretty much

01:02:59.940 --> 01:03:01.240
exclusively designed to be used

01:03:01.240 --> 01:03:02.340
on a USB flash drive.

01:03:02.540 --> 01:03:03.060
It's meant to be

01:03:03.060 --> 01:03:04.320
completely ephemeral

01:03:04.970 --> 01:03:06.180
and it's meant to

01:03:06.180 --> 01:03:07.420
just be spun up

01:03:07.420 --> 01:03:09.280
and then you unplug it

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:09.980
and it's gone.

01:03:10.660 --> 01:03:11.480
Who next does have

01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:12.860
a live OS version as well

01:03:12.860 --> 01:03:13.940
but it's definitely

01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:15.200
more historically used

01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:16.540
like as a virtual machine

01:03:17.600 --> 01:03:18.840
on your device.

01:03:19.300 --> 01:03:20.280
And I think where it's

01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:21.140
actually most powerful

01:03:21.140 --> 01:03:21.820
is when you combine

01:03:21.820 --> 01:03:22.800
who next on cubes.

01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:24.020
So those can be combined

01:03:24.020 --> 01:03:24.660
as tools.

01:03:26.560 --> 01:03:27.440
So yeah

01:03:28.100 --> 01:03:29.240
they're just different tools

01:03:29.240 --> 01:03:30.300
for different people.

01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:31.420
I think

01:03:31.420 --> 01:03:32.740
Tails is just something

01:03:32.740 --> 01:03:33.280
you can always have

01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:33.720
in your backpack

01:03:33.720 --> 01:03:34.780
if you ever need it.

01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:35.460
It's a nice like

01:03:35.460 --> 01:03:36.040
safe place

01:03:36.040 --> 01:03:36.780
that you could boot up

01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:37.920
even on a public computer

01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:38.400
sometimes.

01:03:40.380 --> 01:03:41.620
And otherwise I think

01:03:41.620 --> 01:03:42.320
who next is good

01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:43.420
on any operating system

01:03:43.420 --> 01:03:44.080
if you just want

01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:45.260
like a more safe place.

01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:46.820
And if you want like

01:03:46.820 --> 01:03:47.640
the best scenario

01:03:47.640 --> 01:03:48.580
for who next you can use

01:03:48.580 --> 01:03:49.880
who next on top of cubes.

01:03:51.380 --> 01:03:52.320
Oh no you missed

01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:52.940
the whole stream

01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:54.460
Kredas Kredas.

01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:55.500
Sorry about that.

01:03:55.560 --> 01:03:56.240
You can always rewind.

01:03:56.380 --> 01:03:56.900
These are published

01:03:56.900 --> 01:03:57.560
after the fact.

01:03:57.640 --> 01:03:58.860
And oh my gosh

01:03:58.860 --> 01:03:59.680
that is an announcement

01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:00.880
I think one or two weeks

01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:01.220
ago.

01:04:03.740 --> 01:04:04.640
People were asking

01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:05.820
about getting these streams

01:04:05.820 --> 01:04:07.140
cross posted to peer tube.

01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:08.360
I'm going to have

01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:08.820
an announcement.

01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:09.840
This is more for me

01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:10.580
but it does impact

01:04:10.580 --> 01:04:11.640
you guys because

01:04:12.240 --> 01:04:13.800
we finally enabled

01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:15.080
channel auto sync

01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:15.920
on peer tube.

01:04:16.520 --> 01:04:17.500
Yes I know

01:04:17.500 --> 01:04:18.060
a lot of people

01:04:18.060 --> 01:04:18.880
are going to go Henry

01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.820
hasn't that been a feature

01:04:19.820 --> 01:04:20.920
for a long time

01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:21.580
where you can just

01:04:21.580 --> 01:04:22.760
automatically sync videos

01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:23.800
from YouTube to peer tube.

01:04:24.120 --> 01:04:25.540
Yes the feature exists

01:04:25.540 --> 01:04:26.940
but practically speaking

01:04:26.940 --> 01:04:28.480
it is a lot more annoying

01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:29.080
than that right

01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:30.580
because first off

01:04:30.580 --> 01:04:32.100
you can't for the most part

01:04:32.100 --> 01:04:33.320
I mean I guess

01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:34.040
some people are lucky

01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:34.580
and their servers

01:04:34.580 --> 01:04:35.500
haven't been blacklisted

01:04:35.500 --> 01:04:36.680
but day one

01:04:36.680 --> 01:04:37.760
of spinning up this server

01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:38.800
I was never able to do

01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.060
a YouTube import natively

01:04:40.060 --> 01:04:40.820
from peer tube

01:04:40.820 --> 01:04:42.160
because YouTube blocks

01:04:42.160 --> 01:04:43.120
you know imports

01:04:43.640 --> 01:04:44.860
and so our server IP

01:04:44.860 --> 01:04:46.180
was blacklisted from day one

01:04:46.180 --> 01:04:47.260
so I was never able to go

01:04:47.260 --> 01:04:47.680
that route.

01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:49.180
So then I set up

01:04:49.180 --> 01:04:50.120
a residential proxy

01:04:50.120 --> 01:04:51.680
but back in the day

01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:52.360
this was like

01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.820
even as early as a few months

01:04:53.820 --> 01:04:54.080
ago

01:04:55.300 --> 01:04:56.460
there was no way

01:04:56.460 --> 01:04:57.860
to only set a residential

01:04:57.860 --> 01:04:59.180
proxy for imports

01:04:59.180 --> 01:04:59.880
on YouTube

01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:01.120
so if you set a residential

01:05:01.120 --> 01:05:02.640
proxy in peer tube

01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:04.120
it applied to the whole

01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:06.680
damn peer tube site

01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:07.780
which means that

01:05:07.780 --> 01:05:08.900
all federated traffic

01:05:08.900 --> 01:05:09.880
goes through the residential

01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:10.360
proxy

01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:11.540
which is a huge problem

01:05:11.540 --> 01:05:12.480
because federation

01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:12.900
depends

01:05:12.900 --> 01:05:15.020
on a static IP address

01:05:15.020 --> 01:05:16.400
so I didn't know this

01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:16.800
beforehand

01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.960
so I just was like

01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:18.540
okay cool

01:05:18.540 --> 01:05:19.660
imports are working

01:05:19.660 --> 01:05:20.820
so I just set

01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:21.780
the residential proxy

01:05:21.780 --> 01:05:22.980
to the whole instance

01:05:24.340 --> 01:05:25.320
and of course

01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:26.480
you know it used a lot of bandwidth

01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:27.160
because then

01:05:27.160 --> 01:05:27.540
you know

01:05:27.540 --> 01:05:28.220
a lot of bandwidth

01:05:28.220 --> 01:05:29.280
goes through the proxy

01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:30.540
but especially

01:05:31.120 --> 01:05:32.280
the fact that

01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:33.320
federation just broke

01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:34.660
so we lost all our subscribers

01:05:34.660 --> 01:05:35.680
I think I've lost

01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:36.560
my peer tube subscribers

01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:38.060
like 10 different times now

01:05:38.060 --> 01:05:38.820
like I think we've actually

01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:39.360
lost like

01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:40.700
1,000 to 2,000 subscribers

01:05:40.700 --> 01:05:41.840
on our peer tube server

01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.020
as a result of me just

01:05:43.020 --> 01:05:44.100
screwing something up

01:05:44.100 --> 01:05:44.720
with federation

01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:45.380
it's like

01:05:45.380 --> 01:05:46.760
really easy to break federation

01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:47.160
apparently

01:05:48.580 --> 01:05:49.540
and then

01:05:50.140 --> 01:05:50.520
you know

01:05:50.520 --> 01:05:51.160
so what I had to do

01:05:51.160 --> 01:05:51.740
is I had to build

01:05:51.740 --> 01:05:53.060
like a proxy server

01:05:53.060 --> 01:05:54.120
so what was happening is

01:05:54.120 --> 01:05:54.820
I would send

01:05:54.820 --> 01:05:55.520
all the traffic

01:05:55.520 --> 01:05:56.260
from our peer tube

01:05:56.260 --> 01:05:57.260
to this proxy server

01:05:57.260 --> 01:05:58.220
and the entire

01:05:58.220 --> 01:05:59.560
point of the server

01:05:59.560 --> 01:06:00.160
is to just

01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:01.160
filter traffic

01:06:01.160 --> 01:06:02.600
so if something is

01:06:02.600 --> 01:06:03.220
YouTube traffic

01:06:03.220 --> 01:06:03.900
it goes through

01:06:03.900 --> 01:06:05.060
its residential proxy

01:06:05.060 --> 01:06:06.020
and if it's not

01:06:06.020 --> 01:06:07.280
YouTube traffic

01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:08.240
it pretty much just sends it

01:06:08.240 --> 01:06:09.200
back to the server

01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:10.320
the peer tube server

01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:11.200
and then sends it out

01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:12.160
through the static IP

01:06:12.160 --> 01:06:13.220
so that way

01:06:13.220 --> 01:06:14.680
it's like a dedicated IP

01:06:14.680 --> 01:06:15.820
that people can always use

01:06:15.820 --> 01:06:17.040
and it doesn't break federation

01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:18.460
but then the YouTube traffic

01:06:18.460 --> 01:06:19.340
does get tunnels

01:06:19.340 --> 01:06:20.480
so I had to recreate that

01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.620
thank goodness

01:06:21.620 --> 01:06:22.440
peer tube actually

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:23.360
released this feature

01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:23.940
natively

01:06:23.940 --> 01:06:25.020
so now you can just

01:06:25.020 --> 01:06:25.540
proxy

01:06:25.540 --> 01:06:26.600
import traffic

01:06:26.600 --> 01:06:27.780
through the residential proxy

01:06:28.680 --> 01:06:30.320
and so I finally migrated

01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:31.640
to their native system

01:06:31.640 --> 01:06:32.260
which has been working

01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:33.620
fabulously for us

01:06:34.180 --> 01:06:35.140
and then you might be

01:06:35.140 --> 01:06:35.440
wondering

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:36.320
oh Henry

01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:36.800
like

01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:38.100
why didn't you just enable

01:06:38.100 --> 01:06:38.980
channel sync then

01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:40.840
it's because the channel sync function

01:06:42.300 --> 01:06:43.880
actually uses a lot of bandwidth

01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:45.380
for us

01:06:45.380 --> 01:06:46.080
and our channel

01:06:46.080 --> 01:06:47.340
it runs every hour

01:06:47.340 --> 01:06:47.860
by default

01:06:47.860 --> 01:06:49.180
and each hour

01:06:49.180 --> 01:06:50.820
it uses 20 megabytes

01:06:50.820 --> 01:06:51.380
of bandwidth

01:06:51.380 --> 01:06:52.220
just to check

01:06:52.220 --> 01:06:53.160
if there's new videos

01:06:53.160 --> 01:06:54.060
if you do the math

01:06:54.060 --> 01:06:55.340
20 times 24

01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:57.420
like 20 times 24

01:06:57.420 --> 01:06:58.460
that's 480

01:06:58.460 --> 01:06:59.580
times 30

01:06:59.580 --> 01:07:01.900
that's 14.4 gigabytes

01:07:01.900 --> 01:07:03.100
of bandwidth a month

01:07:03.100 --> 01:07:05.220
and the residential proxy services

01:07:05.220 --> 01:07:05.840
aren't cheap

01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:06.820
so

01:07:06.820 --> 01:07:08.500
I finally learned

01:07:08.500 --> 01:07:09.920
recently that you can actually

01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:11.120
set it to auto sync

01:07:11.120 --> 01:07:11.840
every eight hours

01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:13.740
so now it auto sinks

01:07:13.740 --> 01:07:14.480
every eight hours

01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:15.960
so it will only use that

01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:16.920
20 megabytes of bandwidth

01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:17.800
every eight hours

01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:19.260
and it should only import

01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:21.360
the videos

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:21.980
when needed

01:07:21.980 --> 01:07:22.760
and yes

01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:23.800
I did announce this last week

01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:24.720
but I wanted to just

01:07:24.720 --> 01:07:25.860
announce it again

01:07:25.860 --> 01:07:26.640
because I'm really excited

01:07:26.640 --> 01:07:27.040
about it

01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:27.800
and it's been working

01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:28.560
and you can see

01:07:28.560 --> 01:07:29.780
last week's stream

01:07:29.780 --> 01:07:31.880
did import correctly

01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:32.440
which

01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:33.360
when I announced it

01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:34.600
I didn't know if it would happen

01:07:34.600 --> 01:07:35.480
but now I'm a lot more

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:36.240
confident enough

01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:37.060
to really expand

01:07:37.060 --> 01:07:38.340
on like the behind the scenes

01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:39.660
and yeah

01:07:39.660 --> 01:07:41.280
running peer trip is a pain in the butt

01:07:41.740 --> 01:07:42.880
and it costs us money

01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:43.800
it costs us time

01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:46.120
it's like one of the things

01:07:46.120 --> 01:07:48.120
that we continually go back here

01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:48.420
and say

01:07:48.420 --> 01:07:48.680
man

01:07:48.680 --> 01:07:50.200
we really want to cut this out

01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:51.700
like it's just a lot of overhead

01:07:52.340 --> 01:07:53.500
it's a lot of cost

01:07:53.500 --> 01:07:54.200
for what it is

01:07:54.200 --> 01:07:55.640
and like look at the views guys

01:07:56.120 --> 01:07:58.700
like we literally get 70 views

01:07:58.700 --> 01:07:59.760
on this interview

01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.680
I guess we got over 100 on this one

01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:03.680
the most views I see on a video on this

01:08:03.680 --> 01:08:04.780
is like 300-400 views

01:08:04.780 --> 01:08:06.540
so it's one of those like

01:08:06.540 --> 01:08:07.860
business decisions

01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.420
where it doesn't make any sense

01:08:11.700 --> 01:08:14.740
but it's the right thing to do

01:08:14.740 --> 01:08:18.080
like the reason I can tell you guys

01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:19.500
not to use an ad blocker

01:08:19.500 --> 01:08:20.420
and to like

01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:21.560
and the reason I feel comfortable

01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:22.500
posting to YouTube

01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:23.140
and all these things

01:08:23.140 --> 01:08:24.300
is because we have peer tube

01:08:24.300 --> 01:08:25.080
is that safe space

01:08:25.080 --> 01:08:26.140
if you don't have the safe space

01:08:26.700 --> 01:08:27.860
then it's a lot harder

01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:30.440
to like in good faith say

01:08:30.440 --> 01:08:32.320
oh I'm just posting to YouTube

01:08:32.320 --> 01:08:33.060
to reach people

01:08:33.060 --> 01:08:33.700
it's like yeah

01:08:33.700 --> 01:08:34.720
for reaching people

01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:35.900
who are already on YouTube

01:08:36.580 --> 01:08:38.460
but also we can get them on peer tube

01:08:38.460 --> 01:08:39.560
which is a much safer place

01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:41.160
anyway I just wanted to share

01:08:41.160 --> 01:08:41.940
a little bit about peer tube

01:08:41.940 --> 01:08:43.240
because it's a pain in the ass to host

01:08:43.840 --> 01:08:44.820
but it should be working

01:08:44.820 --> 01:08:45.900
and you guys should get these streams

01:08:45.900 --> 01:08:46.880
after the fact

01:08:48.440 --> 01:08:50.560
sorry I just went on a huge tangent there

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.140
but I hope someone found that interesting

01:08:53.180 --> 01:08:53.900
let's see

01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:58.620
earlier stream would be nice for Europe

01:08:58.620 --> 01:09:00.640
next week will be about half an hour earlier

01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:02.380
but yeah it's not going to be that early

01:09:02.380 --> 01:09:03.220
at the time zone

01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:05.300
like pacific time to European

01:09:05.300 --> 01:09:07.820
time zones is just not fantastic

01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.040
I have to do a lot of meetings

01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:12.000
in central European time

01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:12.880
I think CET

01:09:13.480 --> 01:09:15.440
and it's always a little bit hard to coordinate

01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:17.680
you ever used Hoonix

01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.340
yeah I've used Hoonix in cubes

01:09:19.340 --> 01:09:20.220
and it was

01:09:20.860 --> 01:09:22.180
I don't have a use case for it

01:09:22.180 --> 01:09:22.580
day-to-day

01:09:22.580 --> 01:09:23.720
but it works well

01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:24.680
and I really enjoyed it

01:09:25.280 --> 01:09:26.120
why do you smell that

01:09:26.120 --> 01:09:26.820
instead of obscura

01:09:26.820 --> 01:09:27.980
it's still using more that

01:09:27.980 --> 01:09:28.540
but more anonymous

01:09:28.540 --> 01:09:30.500
I use Moldad instead of obscura

01:09:30.500 --> 01:09:31.740
because I actually use tail skill

01:09:32.180 --> 01:09:33.600
that's really why I use Moldad

01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:36.900
I actually wish that I could change the VPN provider

01:09:38.360 --> 01:09:39.380
as the exit node

01:09:39.380 --> 01:09:41.020
but there is no way to do that

01:09:41.020 --> 01:09:42.380
so for those who don't know

01:09:42.380 --> 01:09:44.240
tail scale is how you can connect to things

01:09:44.240 --> 01:09:46.380
it's more of like a traditional VPN use case

01:09:46.380 --> 01:09:47.400
so like I have my NAS

01:09:47.400 --> 01:09:49.280
I connect to my NAS using tail scale

01:09:49.860 --> 01:09:50.760
and I have some servers

01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:51.600
like the peer tube server

01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:52.440
that I can connect to

01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:53.480
through tail scale

01:09:54.260 --> 01:09:56.580
and tail scale pretty much is a VPN

01:09:56.580 --> 01:09:58.160
and normally it's

01:09:58.160 --> 01:09:59.040
you have to run tail scale

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:00.300
and then Moldad separately

01:10:00.300 --> 01:10:02.220
so you have to have like two VPN connections running

01:10:02.220 --> 01:10:04.220
but tail scale partnered with Moldad

01:10:04.220 --> 01:10:05.540
so that you can just have Moldad

01:10:05.540 --> 01:10:07.040
built into the same VPN connection

01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:08.580
and use Moldad as an exit node

01:10:09.140 --> 01:10:09.980
so that's what I do

01:10:09.980 --> 01:10:10.820
it's very convenient

01:10:10.820 --> 01:10:12.500
it lets me have just one VPN connection

01:10:12.500 --> 01:10:13.340
across my devices

01:10:14.380 --> 01:10:16.100
and if I could use obscura

01:10:16.100 --> 01:10:16.880
within tail scale

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:17.480
I would do it

01:10:17.480 --> 01:10:18.500
but it's just

01:10:18.500 --> 01:10:19.500
I don't want to have to run

01:10:19.500 --> 01:10:20.500
two VPN connections

01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:22.560
just to answer

01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:23.920
I got privacy burnout last week

01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.500
I was just too tired to be paranoid

01:10:25.500 --> 01:10:27.060
I just like to play my stuff

01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:28.180
without worrying about life too much

01:10:28.180 --> 01:10:29.260
like paying cash everywhere

01:10:29.260 --> 01:10:30.580
yeah again like

01:10:30.580 --> 01:10:32.220
I covered a lot more of my thoughts

01:10:32.220 --> 01:10:32.700
at the beginning

01:10:32.700 --> 01:10:33.520
so I would go there

01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:35.400
if you want to see it

01:10:38.180 --> 01:10:38.840
I'm in burnout

01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.640
trying to off-scape baseband signals

01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:42.000
watch a mobile didn't you announce

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.680
yeah I did

01:10:43.080 --> 01:10:43.880
why burnout

01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:44.760
everyone's saying name

01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:45.180
privacy burnout

01:10:45.180 --> 01:10:46.320
why burnout lol

01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:49.240
yeah

01:10:49.240 --> 01:10:50.400
all right

01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:52.720
yeah I don't see much else

01:10:53.580 --> 01:10:54.380
let's see

01:10:54.380 --> 01:10:55.680
yeah nothing on signal

01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:56.260
all right guys

01:10:56.940 --> 01:10:57.640
I'm gonna go ahead

01:10:57.640 --> 01:10:58.600
and start rounding this out

01:10:59.120 --> 01:10:59.840
I want to thank you all

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:01.060
for being here as always

01:11:01.060 --> 01:11:02.500
it's always a pleasure to be here

01:11:02.500 --> 01:11:03.880
and I

01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.040
you know these are just meant to be fun

01:11:06.040 --> 01:11:06.900
they're meant to be casual

01:11:06.900 --> 01:11:07.440
and so

01:11:07.440 --> 01:11:08.620
the fact that there's so many

01:11:08.620 --> 01:11:09.960
familiar faces that come each week

01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:11.580
just makes it a little bit more enjoyable

01:11:12.360 --> 01:11:13.360
it's already enjoyable

01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:14.200
but it's even more enjoyable

01:11:14.200 --> 01:11:14.740
with you guys

01:11:14.740 --> 01:11:15.900
and having familiar faces

01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:18.100
I hope that you are able to

01:11:18.100 --> 01:11:19.060
reset your cpu

01:11:19.060 --> 01:11:19.960
Adam Bean

01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:23.140
and yeah

01:11:23.140 --> 01:11:23.740
again

01:11:23.740 --> 01:11:25.060
Techlorians down in the description

01:11:25.480 --> 01:11:26.220
PeerTube server

01:11:26.220 --> 01:11:27.000
we have our tools

01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:28.360
tools.techlor.tech

01:11:28.360 --> 01:11:29.440
quiz.techlor.tech

01:11:29.440 --> 01:11:31.260
and also VPN.techlor.tech

01:11:31.260 --> 01:11:32.540
which did not come up this week

01:11:32.540 --> 01:11:34.280
anywhere near as much as last week

01:11:34.780 --> 01:11:36.040
but I will see you all

01:11:36.040 --> 01:11:37.160
next Friday

01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:39.760
check to see the exact time

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:40.780
because I think next Friday

01:11:40.780 --> 01:11:42.040
might have to be a little bit earlier

01:11:42.040 --> 01:11:43.760
which you Europeans might enjoy

01:11:44.660 --> 01:11:45.640
other than that

01:11:46.200 --> 01:11:47.400
thank you all for being here

01:11:47.400 --> 01:11:48.480
and I'll see you guys

01:11:48.480 --> 01:11:50.260
next time on Techlor

